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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if I particularly like the gleeful gloating in this thread, but nevermind.

The nastiest one I have heard of wasn't railway-related. When I worked at Grace Bros Bondi Junction in the late 80s, everyone knew of the "goods lift incident" of the 70s. The glass in the door on one of the floors was missing, so a bloke poked his head in to see if the lift was coming.

It was.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, in the old days they used to have guys walk the roofs in the States to operate the brakes. Don't know if they had that in Oz. I have never seen photos of it and the wagons were not equipped with walkways like the US boxcars. I think they just operated the levers from ground level when stationary. Applied as much brake as they thought needed before setting off.

That would be a bugger of a job running along the roofs to apply and release brakes. So why do fucken idiots these days want to get up there? Over here it is to avoid paying the fare. In Oz I think it is just because they are twats.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every wagon I've seen pictures of in Victoria were fitted with handbrakes at ground level, either a wheel mid-way along, at the ends or as a large lever.

Not sure about anywhere else definitively but I cannot think of an example of it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, pretty sure sure we followed the British practice on brakes. I have never seen an old time Oz train set up for it. In the US they had long trains of box cars. Dunno what the poor buggers who ran the roofs did when they came to a flat wagon or "gondola". Most likely curse, climb down off the roof, struggle across the bodgy wagon, then climb on to the next box car. I suppose if the guys who made up trains were nice they would put the flats and open wagons at one end or the other.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheLoadedDog wrote:
Not sure if I particularly like the gleeful gloating in this thread, but nevermind.


I get your point, and I'll try to less expose my dark sense of humour; given the sensativity of the subject in a rail forum.

Humans have found incredible ways of injuring themselves, and unfortunately, the list of Darwin award nominees, will only grow. Whilist I do feel sorry for any poor bastard tasked to cleaning up such mess, not too many 000 calls are for rescuing nannas kitty stuck up a tree.

It's not the concequences I find humour in, just the sheer stupidity; in my mind, of the events leading up beforehand.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An impressive trip for the not so bright spark. He's got on at Newport, odds on he was dead within 100m when the train went under the Melbourne Rd overpass which has impressively tight clearances. He's then travelled all the way to Werribee, cooled his heels overnight before making the trip all the way back to the city.

Not the brightest, in fact, even among the dumb I'm guessing he was not considered the sharpest stick.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the Darwin Awards I prefer the ones where they sterilise themselves. Once a guy tried to steal a live lobster by hiding it in his underwear... where it promptly performed a vasectomy on him.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was actually my mate and I who found him. We traveled in on that train; the cab was full of the usual jokes and carrying-on. It was a three car set, and the driver was asked to pull it right down to the East end of the platform to do an attach. When we walked back along the train to get to the escalators my mate thought the panto was unusually low (it's just the wire is low there); then he looked back as we headed up to the concourse and spotted the body.

There wasn't much to see. He just looked like he was asleep. S'pose we could have put in for a couple of days off, but neither of us could be fucked.

If we hadn't had to do that attach, I wonder if he would have been spotted? Or if he'd have got through the loop? As it was he fucked the system up for about three hours.

Anyway, the bloke that ran the last to Werribee the previous night reckons he was holding the doors at Newport, and couldn't be seen at Seaholme (the next stop). Prob'ly not appropriate to go into further details since the Coroner will be involved.

There's been no sob stories in the papers, and I don't think they've even announced his name, so I suspect he was just a feral, and no loss to society. But out there somewhere there's probably a mum who has to bury her son. And that's pretty sad.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Argus Tuft wrote:
You know, in the old days they used to have guys walk the roofs in the States to operate the brakes. Don't know if they had that in Oz. I have never seen photos of it and the wagons were not equipped with walkways like the US boxcars. I think they just operated the levers from ground level when stationary. Applied as much brake as they thought needed before setting off.

That would be a bugger of a job running along the roofs to apply and release brakes. So why do fucken idiots these days want to get up there? Over here it is to avoid paying the fare. In Oz I think it is just because they are twats.


I was reading about this recently (fucked if I can remember where though):

Yes, they did have to monkey along the tops of the wagons at line speed, and yes it was considered a dangerous job even by the standards of the day.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed a reduction - to almost nil - riders on the roof of the Jakarta suburban electrics. The guy with me said, "Yeah, they have set up a spray device so that anyone on the roof gets sprayed with a bright coloured stain then they can be easily identified at the stations."

What a beauty. Wankers in Oz would not be game to do that. Worry about compensation and all that shit. If the fuckers are on the roof avoiding fares they deserve to be bloody sprayed. Exterminate!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not all is bad.Bloke getting protruding head whacked near Maitland while on 620 class got us the Hunters.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't say I've heard of blokes walking along the roofs of wagons applying brakes, however, the old wheat hoppers had manual top doors up until a few years ago and the graincorp blokes had to throw them open & cloesd. OH&S put a stop to that, which is why most of the wagon's look like the top door attachment is some after-thought. Which is exactly what it is...


My old girl told us a storey about a similar incident on the Brisbane suburban network back in the 80's. A schoolkid decided to stick his head out to feel the wind in his hair. Shortly thereafter, he felt a suburban-electric in it as well. Poor bastard killed outright.

As for pricks standing on the auto's... Have a look at those new bandicoot-ed Brisbane electrics. They used to have a grab-rail around under the windscreen to clean the windows at depots and a step around the frame level. The handrail is now gone and the step has been covered over with fibreglass making it look like the damn thing has got a fat lip. Liiks like shit compared to the original design.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems though now, even if they hopped on a freight at Longwood Loop or Tottenham Yard, fell off and lost legs it's PN and VicTrack's fault, not theirs for being little fucking retards.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's my fucking valium?

Fucking scum like these two tards fucking in-fucking-furiates me
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deep breaths...... Deep Breaths....

OF COURSE IT'S THE FUCKING TRAIN DRIVER'S FAULT FOR NOT KEEPING A PROPER LOOKOUT. I MEAN WE'VE ONLY GOT TWO PIDDLY REAR VISION MIRRORS AND YOU CAN'T SEE JACK SHIT IF THERE IS THE SLIGHTEST CUVE IN THE TRACK.

It's funny how they're two seperate accidents, yet they're being represented by one blood-sucking lawyer. What's the bet that he's one of these "No win-No fee" people?

[url=michael.lombard@holdingredlich.com.au]Email[/url] this arsewipe and tell him what you really think of his lawyering skills...

I'd love to see this case get thrown out, as like the Kerang case, it has the chance of setting a dangerous precedent where Driver's can be held responsible for what is happening to/on their train a mile back from the cab. Very dangerous territory if you ask me...
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