Victoria's Love Affair with Crashing Into Rail Vehicles

Bigged · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:46 am Post subject:

I agree Secret Agent.
Its not that the cunt has done it but the fact that he is denying responsibility for it by pleading Not guilty.
Be a Man you truck driving CUNT!

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Bwana · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:57 am Post subject:

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Bwana quit trying to start flames will you.

Serviceton_kev · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject:

I've been watching this thread from the sidelines, but now it's time to add my 2 cents worth in. Being from Wangaratta, what happened at the Kerang level crossing accident not only affected the relatives of the people killed in the train crash, but it also had an affect on Wangaratta as well, seeing it was a Canny's truck and a Canny's driver involved. Now Cannny's is a Wangaratta trucking company that has been going back for years and is a big part of Wang. I know for sure that Dutchy did't take any drugs and that he was one of the best, if not the best of all the Canny drivers. Up until the Kerang level crossing accident, he had a good driving record. I'm not condoning what Dutchy did, but it wasn't like he decided to get up that morning and take 11 people out on purpose. It wasn't pre-meditated. He just fucked up for some reason. Pure and Simple. We all fuck up at times as we're all human, although Dutchy fucked up in a big way. We donm't know the reason for his fuck up but it might come out in that upcoming trail. Now after the incident, fuckwits from Melbourne and elsewhere were taking their anger out on ALL Canny's drivers because of what happened, my mate who was driving for Canny's at the time being one of them. Fuckwits were threatening Canny's drivers, smashing windscreens and doing all sorts of different shit. There even had to be something through the media to tell these fuckwits to stop picking on Canny's drivers because of what happened. Yes, fair enough that Dutchy fucked up, yes, fair enough that he has to go to court and face the consequences but he's human as well, and he's already suffering for his actions emiotionally and will be for the rest of his life. He's not a fucking animal, he's human after all. And what's vigilante action going to do? Fuck all!! It's only going to bring us down to a maggots level as well. Before anyone tries to fuck me over, I'm a train person who was born into the railways. Yes, Dutchy fucked up. He's going through court now. He also has to live with it for the rest of his life.
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Bigged · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject:

Yeah yeah oh he was a good man, he was the bestest driver, ect that is not my arguement.
I'm not calling for capital punishment just a long stay with Bubba! Rodney Dangerfield

If he would own up say yep it was all my fault I could respect the man, But to plead not guilty when the facts speak for themselves is another thing.
Anyone who hits a train at a Lxing is legally in the wrong FULL STOP.

Just take a minute to reflect here. Remember the so called good man, he was the bestest truck driver that killed 2 friends of mine and another at Benalla, He virtually got off scott free.

I can see the solicitors saying ahhh whats 11 more lives your honour give him community service oh and of course he needs his licence to earn a living, Oh did we mention he drives interstate so he mightnt be able to show up at community service.
What is the difference between a loaded gun and a truck driven inattentively or any moter vehicle for that matter none I say.
Causing death by indifference or inattentiveness is all the same to me as doing what that fuckwit Bryant or dogfucker Julian Knight did.
By pleading not guilty to what is the obvious he is going to put all those people through the pain of a prolonged court case having to relive the events all over again.
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drwaddles · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject:

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Chill a bit, fucken.
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Bwana · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject:

bit removed in response to 'notch's request, which I hadn't read when I hit "submit". I'll just ask who is really trying to start a flame war, and why one of three people who said pretty much the same thing was singled out

I can't see how he will get out of culpable driving - at the very least he was negligent, and there can be no doubt his driving resulted in the death of 11 people - together those two facts = culpable driving. I can only assume he's trying for a leser charge, maybe negligent driving. I agree he'd be a freakin idiot if he thinks he can shift the blame away from himself though, and I doubt that is what he is trying to do.

Ed, in all seriousness, can you honestly not see the distinction that malice introduces? I think the actions, and the intent behind it, are far more important than the results as far as the justice system goes. As I've said, he fucked up. I've also said he needs to spend some time at Bubba's place. The martin bryants of this world deserve much worse though, there has to be a distinction there.
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Serviceton_kev · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject:

I'm not saying he shouldn't get out of the shit but he should have some sort of punishment, but what I'm saying is that he did not deliberatly go out and kill 11 people like the cunt that deliberately went in 3 times to bash the fuck out of my 2 1/2 year old nephew back in December 1997, killing him and only get a slap on the wrist sentence. The cunt that did that got off lightly while my family have a life sentence as well as our Christmas's fucked up for the rest of our lives. The thing is what good is it going to hunt him down and fuck him over? None, as it'll only bring ourselves to the cunt's level.

As for the driver that took out K 183 and 3 people, he was racing the train and should've been fucked up.

There you go, my 2 worth, now I'll shut the fuck up.
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Secret Agent · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject:

I have to agree with Bigged he fucked up big time is an understatement, but fuck up he did, if he gets off, of this on a lesser charge, it will be a perversion of justice. This guy deliberately smashes into a train that is technically already on the crossing, where the fuck was he looking while this was happening, not at the road that was for sure, as for being a local driver he should have known that crossing like the back of his hand virtually and thought hello this crossing is dangerous I will stop before going over it to be on the safe side, but he did not do this, why!

If he has lapse's of concentration like this he should not be driving a truck period! I am with Bigged here again it is all the same as if he shot them or something, only a fool would plead not guilty to that. To me he is not a human, if he was human he would have had the ball's to plead guilty as charged and suffer the consequences of HIS action! No one else is to blame except the driver of the vehicle that fails to stop at a railway crossing, he had more chance of stopping than the damn train would have! Cool

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Bigged · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject:

Sorry to hear of that Kev. It is very sad. Crying or Very sad

You have more will power than me as I'm afraid that I would be keeping big bubba company for grievious bodily harm quite possibly worse, its just the way I am "An eye for an eye and all that".
For that I congratulate you and wish you well.
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Bwana · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:48 pm Post subject:

Secret Agent · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject:

That is a bit of a misquote, quote what I said in full not take pieces out to suit yourselfl What else can you think when the loco and first car escape being hit by the truck and he plows into the side of the train. The loco and possibly part of the first car must have been either on or just about to enter the actual crossing for this to happen, so how the fuck can you not see a red, white and blue loco with cars that match, he cannot say it blended into the landscape it would stand out like the proverbial sore thumb! Next he must have doing exccessive speed near the crossing, most would slow down in case a train came along even if they did not stop.

He would have a lot to answer for if I was a judge, half or more of this will probably never even get to court, that is another problem as well. Anyone who does not stop at stop signs or level crossings etc do not get any sympathy from me, they should know better especially since he was a local, I could understand if he was not a local, but it is still the same to me.
He drove through the crossing while a train was attempting to cross the same crossing, what more needs to be said. Caution is something hardly anyone use's today and look what happens, it was always said that it was better to err on the side of caution! Cool

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TheLoadedDog · Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject:

Bwana · Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:56 am Post subject:

Reason I used a short quote is that there is only one word I object to - "deliberately". He left, from memory, something like a 60m skid mark, doesn't sound like he was doing his best to hit it. As I've said repeatedly, he fucked up, that's all. As I've said, prove me wrong on this point and I'll join the lynching.

And I'm certainly not suggesting he deserves our sympathy. I'm suggesting that proposing the death penalty for a fuckup is a bit extreme. That's all.
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